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Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:00 pm
by Eric
"It looks like trying to produce a score with the current convention of accidentals only apply to the next note is essentially impossible to do in Sibelius (it requires much faking)"

I think Lilypond has such a mode built-in, but wth.

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:32 am
by GalenHZ
Hey, everyone. After several month's work and a 5-year hiatus, I've started working on this project again. I've gotten through measure 193 of the solo piano and orchestral reduction of the first movement.

It's not very pretty yet. Parts of the solo piano are just muddy messes as lilypond tries to cram 10 pounds of notes into a 5 pound PDF container, and I haven't gone back and done any fixups. I'm just trying to get the core musical data into text, since that's the necessary first step.

PDF:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XSX_9H ... sp=sharing

Source:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riMD43 ... sp=sharing

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:29 am
by coulonnus
Perhaps the right place for this should be a LilyPond forum, but can you increase the inter-staff distance for measures 113-121?

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:49 pm
by GalenHZ
That would be a very good idea, and I'm pretty sure it's possible. Those measures are the absolute worst part of the output right now. It's on my list of things to do once I've gotten to the end of entering the music for the first movement.

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:02 pm
by Sallen112
Are you going to be typesetting the Full Score and the Parts I uploaded long ago?

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:34 am
by GalenHZ
I certainly intend to try.

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:41 am
by coulonnus
I just found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qi6pnb7hRQ. Do you collaborate with its author?

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:22 pm
by GalenHZ
No, I don't know him. He built the video around existing audio and screenshots from the same piano reduction score I'm working from.

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:18 pm
by GalenHZ
All right. The first movement piano reduction is note complete, although it still needs some fixes and better workarounds. I've changed it to match the accidentals-never-stick format of the original.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XSX_9H ... sp=sharing

I've also put together the first 15 bars of the full score. This is still very preliminary.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eaFpLy ... sp=sharing

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:07 pm
by GalenHZ
Full score of the first movement through bar 81.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cgw_Gc ... sp=sharing

Sallen112, you uploaded the score/parts back in the day, so you might be the person to answer some questions.

I assume that once I'm done with this, I can upload it to IMSLP under the same license as the scans (PR-BY-ND-NC 3.0)...but I'm not completely sure that this doesn't count as a derivative work, which would require permissions from whoever holds the copyright. And what is the copyright status of this work, anyway? Was it ever published, or registered/renewed? I want to make sure I'm not investing time in something I can't release.

Re: IMSLP Kickstarter Project 1: Leo Ornstein's Piano Concerto

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:11 am
by Sallen112
We can just use the same license as the Manuscript (PR-BY-ND-NC 3.0) upload (since its already uploaded with permission) and its most likely under copyright everywhere without permission so I wouldn't worry about it being Public domain because its not since we have permission already to have the work online for free.

If your planning on uploading the first movement, I think its best if you are still planning on doing the whole work in waiting until the entire work is finished and typesetted to save on admin workpage cleanup.