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An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:16 pm
by worov
I have found this russian edition of the Italian Concerto of J.S. Bach.

http://rapidshare.com/files/376926723/I ... ncerto.pdf

I don't know which one it is. I know this is not the edition by Egon Petri. I already have this one, and it is very different. Maybe a reprint of the Czerny edition ? I don't know it, so I can't compare. Does anyone know this russian edition ?

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:48 pm
by Carolus
It's a fairly late Muzyka edition. It mentioned the NBA, which means that it dates from the 1960s at earliest. From the look of it I would guess it was done in the 1980s.

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:08 am
by worov
Thank you for the informations.

Does music publisher Muzyka (Moscow) have a website so I can I can search through the catalogue ?

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:16 pm
by vinteuil
They're defunct. They were the Soviet State Music Publisher.
However, IMSLP has a page called "Muzgiz" which should help somewhat.

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:52 am
by Carolus
I already posted it, BTW.

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:10 am
by worov
Thank you. I found this. This only recent russian edition I have found on the web.

http://www.amazon.com/Clavierubung-Ital ... 142&sr=1-1

Could it be this edition ?

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:44 pm
by audunsj
perlnerd666 wrote:They're defunct. They were the Soviet State Music Publisher.
However, IMSLP has a page called "Muzgiz" which should help somewhat.
They are not defunct:
http://www.music-izdat.ru/
But it's only in russian unfortunatly.

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:23 pm
by worov
audunsji,

thank you for this link. Despite my unknownlesge of russian language, I have made a search in the catalogue. I have not found any edition of the Italian concerto. But I think I have misused the search function, because I have found few Bach works, only 11 volumes. That's very few. Here are the result of my search :

http://www.music-izdat.ru/pub_CatSearch ... A%E0%F2%FC

Maybe this edition we are looking for is already out of print. But that would be rather strange, because it is pretty recent.

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:32 pm
by audunsj
I don't have time at the moment to help you explore it. But I would guess that most of the old catalouge is out of print. Some of it I know was transfered to the publisher "Kompozitor". But that was mostly the works by soviet composers or older russian editions of russian music. I don't think you will find much by Bach there: http://www.idk.su/innot.htm
This one is in english as well however :D

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:24 am
by worov
But I would guess that most of the old catalouge is out of print. Some of it I know was transfered to the publisher "Kompozitor".
So, let's make an hypothesis. The edition I have uploaded on rapidshare may be an Muzyka engraving of the 80's. Carolus said this.

And this one

http://www.amazon.com/Clavierubung-Ital ... 882&sr=1-1

may be a reprint of the edition by Kompozitor. Do you think this would be possible ?

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:49 am
by Carolus
Entirely possible. The folks at Kompozitor would have ready access to a large number of Muzyka issues, and would certainly reprint them. Copyright law seems to be very much of a theoretical concept in Russia, given what I've seen on Tarakanov's site.

Re: An edition of the Italian Concerto

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:44 am
by worov
Then, I guess it is possible also for this one too.

"French Overture" Muzyka file

http://rapidshare.com/files/379324837/F ... n_ed._.pdf

which has been reprinted by Kompozitor

http://www.amazon.com/Overture-preface- ... 649&sr=8-1