Telemann Sonata for Bassoon and continuo

[steltz]

We have two versions of this:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Fagotto_solo_%28T ... MSLP219447

and

http://imslp.org/wiki/Der_getreue_Music ... Philipp%29

Given that the collections category means that a piece can be on two different pages, this might not be a problem, though these need to be linked. The more important issue to start with is a uniform title. The one page lists the work as TWV41:f1 and the other as TWV41:f3. Grove doesn't help much here, because under TWV 41 and ''Der getreue Music-Meister'' it gives a few pieces and then says "17 other pieces; all in Der getreue Music-Meister (Hamburg, 1728–9)". The bassoon sonata is evidently in the "17 other pieces".

My university library lists it as "f1". (it is the Amadeus Edition). Anyone else want to weigh in before I make these titles the same?

[Notenschreiber]

On the homepage of the "Telemann Gesellschaft" is the following link, concerning the TWV:
http://www.klassika.info/Komponisten/Telemann/
According to this page there is no TWV 41:f3, only TWV 41:f1, which is the bassoon sonata of the "Getreue-Musikmeister", No.16.
The link on the IMSLP composer page of Telemann leads to a TWV, which doesn´t contain TWV 41:f3 too. I think, this f3 is just an
error.

[steltz]

Thanks for this. Tomorrow I will download the original to see what the exact title on that was, because there is a discrepancy in titles as well, then I'll change the individual workpage to the original and put the two together and change the f number.

Thanks.

[steltz]

Advice needed -- the original publication (Lection 11-15), page 4 of the file, download here: http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg ... _11-15.pdf

has the following, centered on the page:

"Fagotto solo"

Quite honestly, it looks like an instrumentation, not a title. The index says the same, except that "Fagotto" is italicized and "Solo" is not, which makes it look like "Solo" is the title. I can't find an edition or recording that uses that title. IMC, Amadeus, Musica Rara all publish this as "Sonata", and I can't find anything on WorldCat that uses "Solo" either.

The work page can only have one title. Votes?

[Notenschreiber]

This is clearly a sonata for bassoon and continuo, with a figured bass in the second line . "Solo" for bassoon would have another meaning,
namely music for only one instrument like the solos in TWV 40. Probably the use of the expression "Fagotto Solo" can be explained from
the context of the collection "Der getreue Musikmeister": Here is a piece, where the bassoon plays a solo part!
Edit: I just realized that there is a third page withn this sonata: Bassoon sonata TWV41:f3 (besides Solo sonata TWV41:f1 and "Der getreue Muskmeister").
The title "Solo sonatas" is normally not used for sonatas for one instrument with basso continuo. It contradicts for example the notion of a Triosonata:
2 players with continuo.