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"Mass proper movements"

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:33 am
by steltz
Michael Haydn's Laudate populi http://imslp.org/wiki/Laudate_populi_(H ... MSLP342383 sparked this off, but I see that Grove Music has a very long list of "Mass proper movements" for him, and probably others.

These aren't full masses, so I don't think "masses" would be appropriate, so do they just become sacred songs or cantatas or motets?

Re: "Mass proper movements"

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:56 am
by Davydov
Luckily we already have the tag "offertoriums" (different from "offertories") which is defined as "chant, item of the Proper of the Mass; from the 17th century frequently performed independently of the liturgy".

Breitkopf's edition of the Haydn score actually has the subtitle " Offertorium pro omni tempore", so we should be safe to use that.

Re: "Mass proper movements"

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:16 am
by steltz
Thanks, done.

If I come across this again, will "offertoriums" work for anything listed as a "Mass proper movement"?

Re: "Mass proper movements"

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:17 am
by Davydov
it will be interesting to see if any other examples are subtitled "Offertorium" as well.

Re: "Mass proper movements"

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:09 am
by Davydov
Sorry, I realised the tag should be in the singular (like the other mass movements), so it's "offertorium".