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Johann Sebastian Bach's eldest brother Johann Christoph Bach (1671-1721) doesn't appear to have his own page in IMSLP. I've searched multiple ways and only find a page for Johann Christoph Bach (1642-1703) who is Johann Sebastian Bach's first cousin once removed per Wikipedia disambiguation of Johann Christoph Bach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Ch ... biguation).

Further issues occur for Johann Christoph Bach (1671-1721) when clicking on the link of his name with correct birth and death dates on the Moller Manuscript here: https://imslp.org/wiki/M%C3%B6ller_Manu ... _(Various) That link goes incorrectly to Johann Christoph Bach (1642-1703), the incorrect older first cousin once removed. Similarly the link on the Andreas-Bach-Buch, D-LEm Becker III.8.4 (Various) goes incorrectly to the older first cousin once removed seen on this page https://imslp.org/wiki/Andreas-Bach-Buc ... _(Various).

Given that J.S. Bach's eldest brother wrote other compositions included in collections here BUT has no IMSLP page, someone needs to find/create a page for Johann Christoph Bach (1671-1721) and attached his compositions to the collections. I haven't looked at all the compositions of the older first cousin once removed, but they need to be evaluated to insure that they're attached to the correct Johann Christoph Bach.

Thanks!

So the only way to make pages with the same name on here that is still different between each other is adding a occupation next to there last name, which is possible to do now on here.

Thanks, Sallen112 !

It looks like IMSLP uses Wikipedia as a chief reference source. As seen in it's disambiguation page, there is an occupation for J. C. Bach (1671-172) as follows: Johann Christoph Bach (organist at Ohrdruf) (1671–1721)

The challenge is, Wikipedia gave no occupation for the older first cousin one removed as: Johann Christoph Bach (1642–1703)

As noted on my first post, I'm new here and can't imagine I have permissions to create the new page required for: Johann Christoph Bach (organist at Ohrdruf) (1671–1721)

Do I have permission to create new composer pages? If not, who do I send the request to?

Again, thanks for the info!

Have found the following on J. C. Bach (1671-1721) compositions in MGG (German text to English per Google Translate):

Although J. C. Bach is referred to as "optimus artifex" in his burial entry, it is not clear whether he also emerged as a composer. As first considered by H.-J. Schulze (1985, pp. 77f.), two variation works preserved in copies by J. C. Bach (22) with the authorship information "Joh. Christoph Bach" and "J. C. B.« (Aria Eberliniana pro dormente Camillo in E-flat major and Aria in A minor) are perhaps more likely to be attributed to the Ohrdruf organist (22) than to the better-known Eisenach organist (13). The same applies to a Sarabande in G, which has been handed down together with works by Johann Bernhard Bach (41), a son of the Ohrdruf organist J. C. Bach; all three works are based on Pachelbel's compositional style.

Me/Jeff typing here...J. C. Bach (1671-1721) studied for at least three years with Pachelbel and all J. C.'s sons who reached adulthood were musicians, mostly organists.

The IMSLP entry for "Aria Eberliniana..." is connected to the older first cousin once removed and needs to be connected to J. C. Bach (1671-1721): https://imslp.org/wiki/Aria_Eberliniana ... Christoph)

I'll try to identify/find the other two compositions in IMSLP...more soon-ish =)

Sallen112 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:56 am So the only way to make pages with the same name on here that is still different between each other is adding a occupation next to there last name, which is possible to do now on here.

or something like "the elder" (but including full birth and death year when that information is already going to be easily visible to someone viewing the category is probably less of a good idea; I've seen that at least once, though on a category page that's empty and probably deletable). Or some other relevant disambiguation. Occupation isn't the only one.

The disambiguation tag can use any string. In a case like this, the category name should be something like, instead of Bach, Johann Christoph, Bach, Johann Christoph @Ohrdruf^ or similar. The @ and ^ mark the disambiguation tag. This is entered in LinkPerson templates as value 5 (e.g., {{LinkDed|Johann Christoph|Bach|1671|1721|Ohrdruf}} or {{LinkLib|FirstName|LastName|5=disambtag}}).

The names are displayed on actual pages using the parentheses, e.g.: https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Shakesp ... 40tenor%5E

Please create and link to person categories according to that format.

Thanks for the disambiguation tag info--it worked, after I found that Johann Christoph Bach (1671-1721) was in the IMSLP Bach Family tree with one category as Dedicatee here https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Bach_@o ... _Christoph

I was able to connect him to the two manuscripts he is noted as copyist (previous one manuscript linked to the older first cousin once removed and the other manuscript linked to no where).

There is the connection to the IMSLP score of Aria Eberliniana...I'll give that a try tomorrow.

Again, thanks for the helpful info!

As noted above, I was able to get J. C. Bach (1671-1721) connected as copyist to two manuscripts but I only see that info displayed when I'm logged on to IMSLP. They don't show when I go to J. C. Bach (1671-1721)'s record when I'm not logged in, which means no one else sees that info unless they, too, are logged on, right?

Is there someone who needs to approve my addition/change to the manuscript data records to enable displaying them as a regular part of the works' records? Do I need to notify a particular person of the changes I've made?

I guess I wouldn't be a newbie without all the questions =)