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Compositores Españoles / Spanish Composers

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:02 pm
by Schumann
Eh! Me ha sorprendido tristemente observar la grave ausencia de compositores españoles en vuestra página. Esto hay que solucionarlo ya! Y que mejor que un músico español para encargarse de ello :wink:
Planeo en el más breve tiempo posible publicar toda mi colección de compositores españoles y animo al resto a que haga lo mismo. ¿Qué os parece la idea? Saludos

Hey! I'm sadly surprised to see that your page is lacking Spanish composers!! That has to be solved as soon as possible and I think it's my obbligation as spanish musician to make it. I plan to post all my collection from Spanish composers and I encourage the others to do the same. What do you think of the idea? Greetings

Let's create the biggest Music Library Online!!!

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:27 pm
by ReignMan
How many Spanish composers were there? I can't think of any, but I'd be willing to check to see if I have anything if you can name some.

Yo soy el aprender Español, muy lento! Es necesario en Miami, para todos hable Español.

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:25 am
by Schumann
There were many great Spanish composers: Albeniz, Falla, Granados, Mompou. I can't really believe that you've never heard of them!

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:37 am
by horndude77
No offense meant, but Albeniz is the only spanish composer that I know. The Spain is I guess a forgotton spot in classical music :). I tend to think of guitar music when I think of spain unfortunately. So I guess you have a great opportunity here. Add your public domain spanish music and teach us about these composers!

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:39 am
by ReignMan
Schumann wrote:There were many great Spanish composers: Albeniz, Falla, Granados, Mompou. I can't really believe that you've never heard of them!
I know Granados and Albeniz, but they are really obscure. Albeniz wrote a famous tango, and Granados wrote one or two songs of note. I think what was said about guitar music is more in line with what came from Spain.

I tend to think of Germany, Austria, Russia, Norway, France, Poland, and The United States as the principal countries of classical music (the U.S. came into play later on.) Ironically, there were few English composers, Elgar being an exception.

The absolute must have composers for the archive though would probably be:

J. S. Bach - Ger
L. V. - Beethoven Ger?
W. A. Mozart - Aus?
J. Brahms - Ger
R. Strauss - Ger
P. I. Tchaikovsky - Rus
G. F. Handel - Eng?
J. Haydn - Ger?
G. Bizet - Fra
I. Stravinsky - Rus
F. Mendelsson - Ger
R. Wagner - Ger
H. Berlioz - Fra
J. Strauss - Aus?
C. W. Gluck - Ger
G. Meyerbeer - Fra
F. Chopin - Pol?
F. Liszt - Hun
F. Schubert - Ger?

And later on:
S. Prokofiev - Rus
J. Williams - USA
H. Zimmer - Ger
M. Steiner - USA
L. Bernstien - USA
D. Shostakovich - Rus

I probably missed alot, but the absolute essentials are listed, specifically Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Tchaikovsky.

Albeniz

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:09 am
by Schumann
Albeniz wrote a huge composition which is one of the most important piano work of the late romanticism. It looks to the future and anticipates some devices of the impressionusmus. Debussy thought of it as one of the greatest ever composed. The name: Suite Iberia

You should listen to it some day. It's a piano monument. The spanish flavours are combined with the most serious german contrapuntal and development tradition. It's worth to listen.

Unfortunately, Spain is a beautiful women but indifferent to their sons. Here in Spain classical music and creators were not supported (in fact Albeniz had to exile), and without a national encourage their names have not reached so much success like i.e. Faure, Franck, Dukas, Saint-Saens.... Although nowadays the musicians begin to know Albeniz as he deserves.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:39 am
by Peter
The absolute must have composers for the archive though would probably be:
Defining a list with "must have" composers is absolutely nonsense. One could define a list with the most known or the most popular composers, but this is extremely depending on cultural context. Just ask a frenchman and a german to make such a list. Ask a musicologist and a player of light fanfare music to make such a list. Ask a pianist and a violinist...

And please don't speak of composers as obscure people :cry: On what basis did you make such an insult? That you don't know them?

Btw, Manuel De Falla and F. Sor are other great Spanish composers that are not mentioned yet here!

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:57 pm
by JohnF
I'm definately not Spanish but I'm very aware of Albeniz, Granados, de Falla (his Nights in the Gardens of Spain is a monument of tone color), Sor, Rodrigo (who HASN'T heard the 2nd movement of his guitar concerto?) and more. I find the incorporation of non-traditional tonal elements extremely appealing.

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:51 am
by ReignMan
Peter wrote:
The absolute must have composers for the archive though would probably be:
Defining a list with "must have" composers is absolutely nonsense. One could define a list with the most known or the most popular composers, but this is extremely depending on cultural context. Just ask a frenchman and a german to make such a list. Ask a musicologist and a player of light fanfare music to make such a list. Ask a pianist and a violinist...

And please don't speak of composers as obscure people :cry: On what basis did you make such an insult? That you don't know them?

Btw, Manuel De Falla and F. Sor are other great Spanish composers that are not mentioned yet here!
Care for a saucer of milk?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:26 pm
by Guest
ReignMan wrote:
Care for a saucer of milk?
Unfortunately, as a European, I don't understand your idiom.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:43 pm
by imslp
Play nice people... before I have to make this the first locked thread of imslpforums.org ;)