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Posted: **Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:21 pm**

Can someone with institutional access to worldcat help me:
There are some well-known libraries now completely hidden by worldcat, at least from europe, like Sibley, Curtis:
If the holdings are also found in many other places, I can understand the wish to reduce inquiries, but there are unique items that show with great detail in worldcat, but with the note "Sorry, no libraries with the specified item were found.".
Examples
Sibley - try Brod, Henri: Fantaisie sur la béarnaise. Op. 10. This is here on imslp, and only the digital link shows in worldcat.
Curtis - try Lacroix, Eugène: Sextuor .. even if Worldcat description states "Accessioned by Curtis Institute in 1929"

I am trying to find 2 items with the same message in worldcat, but they are not at Curtis or Sibley:
Malherbe, Edmond Sextet ww 5tet + eh in Worldcat, but where ??
Wailly, Paul de Octet fl ob 2cl hn trp 2bn in Worldcat, but where ??

If someone knows, where these pieces are, or has access to a complete worldcat listing including hidden libraries, help would be very much appreciated

. Email for help to worldcat had no response.

Posted: **Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:40 pm**

According to the National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections the Wailly Octet is at the Curtis Institute of Music. Here's the record entry:

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Author:        Wailly, Paul de, 1854-1933.
Uniform Title: Octet, woodwinds, horn, trumpet
Title:         Ottetto : pour flûte, hautbois, 2 clarinettes,
                  trompette, cor et deux bassons / Paul de Wailly.
Published:     [Paris] (rue Chaptal, 20) : Copie de Musique
                  Léon Duclos, [1929?]
Description:   1 ms. score (86 p.) + 6 ms. parts ; 33 cm.
Local Call No: M857 .W139
Notes:         Bassoons notated on one part, as are clarinets;
                  score includes piano reduction.
               Name and address of professional copyist from
                  title page stamp.
               "M G. Longy, 16 minutes" -- T.p., in red pencil.
                  [Georges Longy (1868-1930), principal oboe, Boston Symphony,
                  and founder of the Longy School of Music]
               Gift; Renée Longy-Miquelle? [Curtis Institute
                  solfège faculty member, 1926-1941]; June, 1929.
Subjects:      Octets (Bassoons (2), clarinets (2), flute, horn,
                  oboe, trumpet) -- Scores and parts.
Control No.:   ocn183446880

Under the "tagged display" option is the following line: 040 $aCR2$cCR2$dOCLCG

Input the three characters after the $a in the Directory of OCLC Libraries and it returns the Curtis Institute. I'd suggest contacting their archivist. Contact information in on this page. I can't locate the Malherbe. It's not in NUCMC so I'm guessing it isn't at Curtis.

Posted: **Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:13 pm**

Hallo Cypressdome,
Thank you so much. I was not aware of this database!
And the Malherbe is also at the Curtis - you may have overlooked it? It is on the first page of results with Malherbe, Edmond.
These are manuscripts from the Longy Wind Ensemble repertoire, they commissioned lots of unique works of mostly french composers.

Posted: **Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:50 pm**

In the pre-internet days the large bound volumes of NUCMC were a great resource for we students of history trying to locate manuscripts held by academic institutions and historical societies. I hope you are able to get copies of the music from the Curtis Institute.

Posted: **Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:10 am**

Very good news regarding the de Wailly Ottetto!
(From the response by Michelle Oswell of the Curtis Institute)
"Our policy is to put public domain requests on IMSLP for the music community to download. This work is no longer under copyright protection in the U.S. either, since Wailly died in 1933. Therefore I will try to get the piece copied and uploaded to IMSLP this week for you. I’ll let you know when it’s available.
For the other two pieces, if you obtained permission from the heirs of Malherbe and Lacroix (or the copyright holders) and sent the permissions to me, I would then be able to make copies of them for you."

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