I just noticed the piece entitled Dulcis memoria (Anonymous), for 4 viols. I am pretty sure this is just an arrangement, for viols, of Doulce memoire en plaisir consommée (Sandrin). I'm not sure what needs to be done to check if this is indeed the case and, if so, to move it to an arrangements tab on that page.
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Stephen
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Re: Dulcis memoria (Anonymous)
They are different works. The Anonymous piece is actually a Fantasia on 'Dulcis memoria' (and has now been changed accordingly). I have no idea what the fantasia was originally written for. Keyboard? Lute? At any rate, it remains in Anonymous.
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Re: Dulcis memoria (Anonymous)
Hi Carolus. I'm surprised that you consider them different. Are we looking at the same things?... I'm comparing the Sandrin score by Ulrich Alpers with the Fantasia on 'Dulcis memoria' score by Albert Folop. I've had another look and can't see any substantive difference between them. They are barred differently and there are some ficta in different places, and a small number of changed note lengths are different (with rests to compensate). Other than that, they look the same to me!
...but I'm not going to lose any sleep over this...if you think it's best to keep them separate, then so be it!
Cheers
Steve
...but I'm not going to lose any sleep over this...if you think it's best to keep them separate, then so be it!
Cheers
Steve
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Re: Dulcis memoria (Anonymous)
Hi all,
Years ago I sang and conducted this piece... IMHO Folop's score is not a Fantasia, but a mere instrumental transcription, with a very few minor discrepancies: nothing other than an arrangement of Sandrin's Douce mémoire.
(not speaking of the horrible a-flat on bar 25
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Years ago I sang and conducted this piece... IMHO Folop's score is not a Fantasia, but a mere instrumental transcription, with a very few minor discrepancies: nothing other than an arrangement of Sandrin's Douce mémoire.
(not speaking of the horrible a-flat on bar 25
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Re: Dulcis memoria (Anonymous)
That will teach me to just glance at the file! I obviously didn't look very closely. The pages will be merged.
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Re: Dulcis memoria (Anonymous)
Many thanks!
The piece, although written for voices, has long been played on viols, too. When I looked under Sandrin, I was surprised not to find a viol edition and was thinking of doing one of my own, possibly incorporating some of the divisions that Ortiz wrote for the piece (in the 1550s, I think?)
Then I checked more thoroughly, under variants of the title, and found the "anonymous" edition. It really does look like the same piece, though.
Cheers
Stephen
The piece, although written for voices, has long been played on viols, too. When I looked under Sandrin, I was surprised not to find a viol edition and was thinking of doing one of my own, possibly incorporating some of the divisions that Ortiz wrote for the piece (in the 1550s, I think?)
Then I checked more thoroughly, under variants of the title, and found the "anonymous" edition. It really does look like the same piece, though.
Cheers
Stephen