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Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:15 am
by sbeckmesser
allegroamabile wrote:So what do all of you think of Haydn's Creation. What about that sunrise, huh? 8)
Do you mean the spectacular cadence in C-major on "And there was light" (und es ward Licht)? I love it as well as the quasi-atonal Chaos that precedes it, though the big cadence is not a sunrise but "merely" the creation of light. The sun isn't actually created until the Recit No.11 (Und Gott sprach: Es sei'n Lichter) and the first sunrise occurs only in at the start of the following recit No.12 (Im vollem Glanze). This is almost as impressive, with a crescendo from pianissimo to fortissimo over 10 bars applied to an elementary harmonization of an ascending D-major scale. It is another impressive effect produced from extremely simple means. Haydn has been among my top dozen composers since I was a kid.

--Sixtus

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:14 am
by allegroamabile
This is the part I am talking about: In vollem Glanze steiget jetzt die Sonne (In splendour bright is rising now the sun)

So the second one you mentioned. Isn't that so sublime?

I even like it better than the "And there was light" in the second movement.

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:01 am
by Lyle Neff
If you want to hear a sunrise, listen to the one that Rimsky-Korsakov wrote in Act III of May Night (right before Levko sings the line "???, ???, ? ?? ????.").

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:44 pm
by steltz
I'm partial to the one at the end of Mussorgsky's Night on Bald Mountain, but probably only because it's a clarinet solo . . . . .

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:12 pm
by dwil9798
Ravel's depiction of daybreak in Daphnis et Chloe is one of the most brilliantly orchestrated pieces of music ever written.

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:51 pm
by Lyle Neff
steltz wrote:I'm partial to the one at the end of Mussorgsky's Night on Bald Mountain, but probably only because it's a clarinet solo . . . . .
That's Rimsky-Korsakov's version, if memory serves. Musorgsky's original did not end with that.

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:10 am
by Notnd
Well. I like his Bassoon Concerto :D

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:24 am
by allegroamabile
Notnd wrote:Well. I like his Bassoon Concerto :D
Weber's?

Anyways, I think it is best that we get back on topic. There is this one overture by Weber that is really stunning, and it is never played. It is called the Der Beherrscher der Geister, or The Ruler of Spirits.

Re: Opinions on Carl Maria von Weber's Works

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:15 am
by Philgo
I love Weber's works. I have been working on an English adaptation of Abu Hassan. I ideally would like an editable score - so I can edit in the English words. Does anyone have one?

I believe Weber produced both an orchestral and piano version himself for this opera.

Is the piano score on IMSLP Weber's original - does anyone have it? and can upload it?


Cheers Philgo