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Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:55 am
by Gambistico
Dear all,
From may on, till june 2012 I have to prepare every month a complete (kyrie, gloria, sanctus, agnus dei) four voices mass in my church (old-catholic church, The Hague, Netherlands).. I would be very happy if you could help me with this. All suggestions are very welcome!
Sincerely,
Toon Renssen
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:35 am
by reinhold
There are lots of good masses out there. Of course, Mozart, Haydn (also Michael Haydn has excellent masses), Schubert come to mind from the classical era, Palestrina, Josquin, Monteverdi or Orlando di lasso from earlier times. But there are other, less known composers:
- Caldara (baroque)
- Eberlin (baroque)
- Fux (baroque)
- Albrechtsberger (classical)
- Franck, Vierne, Widor, Gounod (romantic)
- Dvorak (romantic)
- Bruckner's early masses
- Kodaly (modern)
- etc.
Of course, the choice mostly depends on the quality of the choir and the orchestra.
You might also get some ideas from the programs of the St. Augustin here in Vienna (
http://www.hochamt.at/), the cathedral St.Stefan in Vienna (
http://www.dommusik-wien.at/), or from Westminster Cathedral in London.
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:58 pm
by dwil9798
Bruckner's masses, as well as Franck's mass, are some of my favorites in the genre. Poulenc's "Mass in G" is written for SATB alone, and although is modern is very nice. My only other recomendation is Britten's "Missa Brevis". It is written for organ and SATB, but the pieces are very short. The entire work takes about 10 minutes to perform.
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:57 am
by reinhold
dwil9798 wrote:Bruckner's masses, as well as Franck's mass, are some of my favorites in the genre.
I agree that Bruckner's masses are beautiful, but they are also not easy (actually, the f minor mass was refused by any orchestra and choir in Vienna in the 1890s as unplayable. Bruckner then paid for an orchestra himself to have the mass performed!). In particular, when your have to perform a mass every Sunday,you don't have enough time to rehearse the hard parts...
With Franck, I absolutely agree... In particular, if you have a harp,
My personal favorites are Dvoraks Mass in D (op.86), and Michael Haydn's Missa Sancti Hieronymi (Oboenmesse, MH 254) and Michael Haydn's Missa Hispanica.
Cheers,
Reinhold
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:45 pm
by allegroamabile
My personal favorites are Dvoraks Mass in D (op.86), and Michael Haydn's Missa Sancti Hieronymi (Oboenmesse, MH 254) and Michael Haydn's Missa Hispanica.
The Dvorak is my favorite mass as well. Such a terrific piece. Another mass that is amazing that is never played and is by a prominent composer is Carl Maria von Weber's Missa Sancta No. 1 in E-flat major. I strongly suggest looking into this piece. Other good masses include Johann Nepomuk Hummel's Mass in E-flat major and Haydn's Heiligmesse. Hummel's Te Deum is quite good as well, and so is Dvorak's.
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:19 pm
by Graham1973
I didn't know that C M Von Weber had written a Mass, let alone two.
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:14 am
by allegroamabile
I didn't know that C M Von Weber had written a Mass, let alone two.
Yes, I strongly recommend you to listen to them. The Gloria movement is so sublime. The fugue at that end of the movement is amazing as well.
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:31 am
by aldona
You have a choir and instrumental musicians at your disposal who have the skill to prepare a new Mass every month??
You are an extremely fortunate person!
Aldona
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:22 pm
by Notenschreiber
You may have a look at he following website:
http://www.mhoessl.de.
Notenschreiber
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:04 pm
by raiatea
Hello,
You may be interested by unpublished masses ZWV2 to ZWV16 and others by J.D. Zelenka.
At
http://www.jdzelenka.net, there are audio mock-ups and free scores in pdf.
Raiatea
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:52 pm
by Peterdyson49
Well you give the strings a holiday... and the women too... and premiere my Mass for Three Voices... the bayan part is optional.. but could be played on the organ or not as was necessary...... but it does have all 6 movements and takes 20 mins.
http://imslp.org/wiki/Mass_for_Three_Vo ... on,_Peter)
score and mp3 rehearsal file on the site!
The model is William Byrd's Three Part.. but he wrote 4 and 5 part Masses as well... which are quite as wonderful as the Three Part Mass.
all can be found at
http://www2.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/William_Byrd
Peter Dyson
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:57 am
by pml
Glad to see that you're no longer being hassled by Captcha, Peter ;-)
Another suggestion, César Franck's early Mass in A major is hardly ever performed, another curious absence from the repertoire like Weber's masses.
PML
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:57 pm
by Graham1973
allegroamabile wrote:I didn't know that C M Von Weber had written a Mass, let alone two.
Yes, I strongly recommend you to listen to them. The Gloria movement is so sublime. The fugue at that end of the movement is amazing as well.
Where can I find a recording?
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:18 pm
by allegroamabile
Where can I find a recording?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... sa&x=0&y=0
This is it, but the labeling is incorrect. The first six tracks are part of his Missa sancta No. 1, with the movements correctly labeled. I hope you enjoy this great work.
Re: Looking for mass-suggestions (SATB+strings&organ)
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:55 am
by ZacPB189
http://www.giamusic.com/ - They have EVERYTHING that has to do with catholic music for all sorts of instrumentations. I play a lot in church to, but it's usally me (Trumpet) plus organ (and singers, depending on which organist I'm playing (one who only uses the swell manual, no pedals or great AT ALL
), as there's a couple different music groups in my parishes), so I have a small bias towards stuff with trumpet parts
. But yeah, GIA is a REALLY good place to look.