original music for non-PD text

[steltz]

I'm sorry, but the file will not be reinstated.

[Carolus]

Odin, I sympathize that it is ridiculous. That's the way copyright laws are too much of the time, unfortunately. In the USA, the use of three words might pass the "fair use" test - provided the three words did not constitute a substantive portion of the original textual work. The US copyright office itself even is so bold as to state that "names, titles, and short phrases are not the subject of copyright". What they're not telling you is that all of above are the subject of trademarks, unfortunately. As one writer remarked: trademarks are like diamonds - they last forever. Forever might be an exxageration, but only a slight one as trademarks are considered in force as long as they are in use - even if they've been in use for hundreds of years. Did your former friend trademark the three words? If so, you're up the proverbial creek with no paddle. BTW, all you former friend has to do to trademark the three short words in the USA is add TM to them and state he's planning on registering the trademark at some (undefined) point in the future. He can use the ® symbol once the trademark is registered - which is actually fairly expensive.

[Odin]

Steltz !!

I am on a good way to lose all my sympathy for IMSLP
and for this common work. From your side I feel
treated really badly. If you don't want my little melody
here on very small reasons, then I really wonder if my
other humble works are published in the right place.
Show me that you are a good guy instead and put my
little song back on my site.

Odin
Seriously indignated

[Odin]

Carolus

Diamonds do not at all last forever. They consist of pure carbon
and can start burning at temperatures exceeding 700 degrees
centigrade. Believe me - I studied chemistry and was active in
the research of combustion of renewable fuels during many years.

Odin

[Odin]

Steltz

I'm sorry, but the file will not be reinstated.

You are not sorry ! By the way - are you one of the IMSLP andministrators ?
Are you the person who is entitled to decide whether my little melody
will be reinstated or not ? If not - please let me contact the responsible
people of the administration. Step aside and let my little piece come
back on track. My impression is that you are one of those people who
see more than just one single lonely "castle ghost". My melody is not a
threat to IMSLP in any way.

Odin

[Choralia]

Reminder about the forum rules:

If debates become heated please avoid attacking the person you are debating with but, rather, address his or her ideas. Words designed to hurt or insult will not be tolerated.

Max

[Odin]

Hello

I am the one who is feeling insulted - by the way how one
of my contributions was removed on very small reasons.

I can not know if Steltz is the person who was responsible
for this action. But I can see that he used words in a very
decided and auctoritative manner.

On the page for German-speaking people I was informed
that Steltz not was a member of the IMSLP administrative
board. If this is true or false I don't know, but still I wish
that some administrators will step forward and decide
that my little piece will be put back.

The "risk" that IMSLP might be charged for having published
this melody for it's titel 8which is a quotation) is more or
less negligible.

My former friend, being the author and copyright-owner of
the lyrics, is not a hard-core businessman. He is a priest and
a good christian. Therefore he will not prosecute neither
IMSLP nor me personally for having quoted the title of his
lyrics.

Regards

Odin

[Odin]

Hello

I want to apply to the board of all copyright reviewers to
permit that my little melody "Das einsame Schlossgespenst"
will be reinstated here on the site "on my personal responsibility".
It is important for the board members to show a little kindness
to us who are willingly sharing our musical production with
many other people.

Odin

[steltz]

The issue was discussed by several people, including copyright reviewers and administrators. The decision was that, as it stands, it cannot be allowed, but the tune will be allowed if all references are removed to the poem which you yourself state you do not have permission to use. You will have to upload a revised copy of it.

[Odin]

Steltz

There is no risk that my former friend will intervene and prosecute.
Therefore I wish a new (!) decision, based on these circumstances.
I feel personally discriminated since one of my contributions was
removed without having asked me. Please try to learn what the
little wiord "kindness" means. Contributors wish to feel welcome,
not be pushed out.

Odin

[Odin]

Steltz

Of vourse it "can" be allowed. This was an issue of
willing or not willing, not an issue of being able or
unable. I would like that Carolus may intervene
between you and me as a mediator.

Odin

[Odin]

Steltz

I feel personally insulted and humiliated by your
hard line without any sign of compromise.

Odin

[steltz]

There is no risk that my former friend will intervene and prosecute.Odin

The problem is that we need to hear that from him, which is why there is a system in place where living contributors (or their estates, if the contributor is no longer living but the work is still under copyright) have to give permission. I'm sorry but this applies to everyone, not just you, so please don't take it personally.

[Odin]

Steltz

I have been trying tofind my former friend. For some weeks ago I thought that
I had found the right congregation and asked them whether their priest was
identical with my former friend. All things seemed to fit: name, profession and
the geographical area. I did not receive any reply so far and am still waiting.
I can promise you that there is no danger in re-publishing my song.

Rules: I have never liked rigid, non-flexible rules. Nature is flexible - so we
should be too. I told you several times that I am willing to take all risks and
consequences if there will be any troubles.

The contact between you and me does unfortunately not work very properly.
Therefore I would like to continue this discussion with somebody else.

Odin