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What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:32 am
by celloguy
What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright since the score remains blocked to all users even if it PD in Canada?

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:44 pm
by BKhon
Unless I misunderstand your question: The relevance of Canadian copyright is that the IMSLP servers are hosted in Canada. That means if something is non-PD in Canada it can not be uploaded to the site.

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:48 pm
by vinteuil
That is correct. The only files that are blocked are not public domain everywhere else in the world, basically. Thus, it is almost a courtesy to publishers to block those files not public domain in the EU and US

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:48 pm
by celloguy
Hi guys. Yeah I understand, but it seems pointless even listing it, because whether it is PD Canada or not seems to be irrelevant to whether a score is blocked or not. It appear that the only thing that affects whether a score is blocked or not, is whether it is PD in the US or not.

If the servers are hosted in Canada, and the piece is PD in Candad then why is it still blocked?

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:52 pm
by BKhon
Actually, that's not true. If it is in public domain in Canada, then we look to see if it is public domain in either the European Union or the US. If it's not, we block it as a courtesy to the publisher (so not just if it's non-PD in the US). Also, it's not pointless to list because it's a lot easier to eventually unblock it once it does become PD in the EU or US than it is to upload the score again.

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:38 am
by madcapellan
BKhon wrote:Actually, that's not true. If it is in public domain in Canada, then we look to see if it is public domain in either the European Union or the US. If it's not, we block it as a courtesy to the publisher (so not just if it's non-PD in the US). Also, it's not pointless to list because it's a lot easier to eventually unblock it once it does become PD in the EU or US than it is to upload the score again.
This also isn't true. The TB is only for pieces that are PD in Canada but not the US. Pieces that are PD in both but not the EU are still downloadable here.

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 am
by vinteuil
madcapellan wrote:
BKhon wrote:Actually, that's not true. If it is in public domain in Canada, then we look to see if it is public domain in either the European Union or the US. If it's not, we block it as a courtesy to the publisher (so not just if it's non-PD in the US). Also, it's not pointless to list because it's a lot easier to eventually unblock it once it does become PD in the EU or US than it is to upload the score again.
This also isn't true. The TB is only for pieces that are PD in Canada but not the US. Pieces that are PD in both but not the EU are still downloadable here.
Actually, it's only for US and EU copyrighted works. Thus, the gist of his statement is that works that are not PD in both need to wait to become PD in either.

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:49 am
by BKhon
perlnerd666 wrote:
madcapellan wrote:
BKhon wrote:Actually, that's not true. If it is in public domain in Canada, then we look to see if it is public domain in either the European Union or the US. If it's not, we block it as a courtesy to the publisher (so not just if it's non-PD in the US). Also, it's not pointless to list because it's a lot easier to eventually unblock it once it does become PD in the EU or US than it is to upload the score again.
This also isn't true. The TB is only for pieces that are PD in Canada but not the US. Pieces that are PD in both but not the EU are still downloadable here.
Actually, it's only for US and EU copyrighted works. Thus, the gist of his statement is that works that are not PD in both need to wait to become PD in either.
By "his" do you mean me, or someone else? Sorry if I was unclear, but what I meant in my post was what you said :-). Sorry for the lack of clarification. Nonetheless, Perlnerd666 is of course correct.

Re: What's the relevance of the Canadian copyright?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:19 pm
by madcapellan
Yes, the EU server has allowed a number of TB works to become available now. BKhon's post made it sound like anything copyright in the EU but not the US and Canada (a lot of Richard Strauss, for instance) is also TB'd, which isn't true.