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New kind of genres

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:55 pm
by The Messenger
When I first came here I was looking for a all-genre music sheet site. Basicaly, a site where we can find from classical music sheets to pop music sheets. I haven't found a single one, so I decided to sugest one site in particular. Luckily for you, I chose your site, but I did not picked you randomly. I chose your site because, as you've said, "Our goal is to create a virtual library containing all public domain music scores". Please feel free to reply.

PS: Some of you may say that it is a stupid idea, but please try not to say that. I tolerate all opinions, so please accept mine.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:54 pm
by Melodia
IMSLP accepts all genres last I checked. It's just that everything that's PD is still almost exclusively within the "classical music" sphere. You can't find, say, rock music on here because all rock music is still copyrighted.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:28 pm
by KGill
Well, there are sites such as the California Sheet Music Project which have scans of 18th-century obscure American popular composers. Anyone is free to make a PDF from the raw images and upload it. And, of course, Joplin, PD Gershwin (worked for Tin Pan Alley, remember), etc. If anyone wants to contribute anything in those spheres, go for it :)

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:00 am
by vinteuil
The problem is that most rock musicians don't want to publish their sheet music here (as most contemporary classical music composers don't either...).

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:44 am
by Lyle Neff
perlnerd666 wrote:The problem is that most rock musicians don't want to publish their sheet music here [...]
Lots of pop music is owned by publishers rather than by the song-writers. And we know how generous publishers are.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:54 pm
by The Messenger
Well I was also thinking that people could also try to decode a music and write a music sheet down or use a software. People don't do that often but it is possible to do so.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:21 pm
by vinteuil
It's still under copyright, so we still have to ask permission.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:27 pm
by The Messenger
Also, there is no rock, pop, blues or hip-hop genre link. People may once in an while upload their own sheets with copylefts (opposite of copyrights), but they can't find one of those genres, or instruments.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:51 pm
by vinteuil
If someone brings it up in the context of an upload, it will be taken care of. It has never happened before, however.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:22 am
by The Messenger
perlnerd666 wrote:If someone brings it up in the context of an upload, it will be taken care of. It has never happened before, however.
It as never happened before because your site only as classical music. New people that want to upload new stuff won't know were to put it.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:20 pm
by vinteuil
Look.
Let's assume that someone got all of the necessary permissions. Then, they decided to post it here of all places. Having gone through all that trouble, do you really think that they would not ask for new genres? We are not going to facilitate this, because the people who are going to or might be going to post other genres of music are going to ask, or be doing it illegally, in which case, they probably would stop having not seen the genres. We do not want to create superfluous categories that very well might never be used.

Re: New kind of genres

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:59 am
by Lyle Neff
The Messenger wrote:Also, there is no rock, pop, blues or hip-hop genre link.
By way of clarification, rock, pop, and hip-hop are styles of popular (or vernacular) music.

This is just another example of why the word "genre" is not helpful to this overall discussion (or in the "genre" portion of the IMSLP work submission form), because it is being employed to refer to everything from styles of music, to performance factors, to types of pieces.