Piano 4 hands scores need empty spacer page in order to have "secondo" and "primo" line up properly across from each other.
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Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
This can easily be fixed when duplex printing. Print the first secondo page on a single sheet of paper and then print pages, for example, 2-end in the traditional duplex manner.
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
Could you please provide an example?
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For people who just view the PDFs --ie who don't print out-- there is still the original problem (as laid out).daphnis wrote:This can easily be fixed when duplex printing. Print the first secondo page on a single sheet of paper and then print pages, for example, 2-end in the traditional duplex manner.
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coulonnus wrote:Could you please provide an example?
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
It should be a general rule to keep the arrangement of the pages (right and left - odd and even pages) always exactly like in the original print, and not only in 4-hands music.
In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.
I see too many scanned scores that don't respect the original score's arrangement!
In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.
I see too many scanned scores that don't respect the original score's arrangement!
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
And typeset scores - retypeset or new compositions - should conform to this rule too!Rob Peters wrote:In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
When printing a score from a PDF it is easy to omit that first blank page.Rob Peters wrote:It should be a general rule to keep the arrangement of the pages (right and left - odd and even pages) always exactly like in the original print, and not only in 4-hands music.
In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.
I see too many scanned scores that don't respect the original score's arrangement!
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
True, but it's always a PITA if you have to reprint a couple of pages (because of printer jam or whatever) and the page numbering in the pd doesn't correspond with that in the score (ood becomes even and vice versa).jm_1234321 wrote:When printing a score from a PDF it is easy to omit that first blank page.
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Re: Piano 4 hands scores should have spacer page.
To make printing simple:Rob Peters wrote:It should be a general rule to keep the arrangement of the pages (right and left - odd and even pages) always exactly like in the original print, and not only in 4-hands music.
1: install pdftk from http://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/ if not already done.
2: find another score that really has a blank page (I assume it is p.2) and make a pdf document with this blank page only: pdftk scorewithblank.pdf cat 2 output myblank.pdf
3: crop the cover of the incorrect score: pdftk thisscore.pdf cat 1 output mycover.pdf
4: crop the music pages of the same score: pdftk thisscore.pdf cat 2-end output mypiece.pdf
5: merge the three sections together: pdftk mycover.pdf myblank.pdf mypiece.pdf output correctscore.pdf
6: If you are not shy: 6a: make a remark in Discuss this Piece and/or 6b: replace the present score with yours.