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Richard Strauss.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:00 am
by punchkick20
Does anyone know if their are any of his early works PD in the US? Such as the Piano Concertos and Early Symphonies, the Uknown Struass?

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:09 pm
by daphnis
Not sure what you mean by "piano concertos". He wrote no concertos for piano per se, and all the orchestral works featuring piano are present on the site save the Rhapsody, which is incomplete. The second symphony opus 12 is public domain and we don't have it.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:21 pm
by steltz
Burleske is probably what you're looking for, and yes, we have it.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:21 am
by punchkick20
I will have to check and I believe he did write piano concertos, I have complete recordings of these and they are out of print but still lookable upable on amazon..

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:31 am
by punchkick20
Concertante

Romance for Clarinet and Orchestra (1879)


Violin Concerto in D minor, Op. 8 (1882)

Horn Concerto No. 1 in E flat major, Op. 11 (1882/83)

Romance for Cello and Orchestra (1883)

Burleske for piano and orchestra (1886–1890)

Parergon zur Symphonia Domestica, for piano (left hand) and orchestra, Op. 73 (1925; ded. Paul Wittgenstein)

Panathenäenzug, for piano (left hand) and orchestra, Op. 74 (1926–1927; ded. Wittgenstein)

Horn Concerto No. 2 in E flat major (1942)

Oboe Concerto in D major (1945)

Duett-Concertino, for clarinet and bassoon with string orchestra (1947)

The two for left hand are in a Strauss Complete Edition I have and they are listed as Concerti.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:31 pm
by daphnis
Have you not looked at the Strauss page? They are both present.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:27 pm
by steltz
I can answer for the two works involving clarinet.

The Romanze was written in 1879, when Strauss was 15 years old. It was never published in his lifetime, so the only publications are recent ones. Eulenberg publishes the pocket score, but the copyright date is 1998. Schott publishes the piano reduction and its copyright date is 1992.

WorldCat doesn't list editors for either, but I would be surprised if there weren't any editors at all. In any case, any country that recognizes copyright for posthumous works will list these works as in copyright, not in public domain.

The Duett-Concertino is a different case, but the outcome is probably the same. The Boosey & Hawkes score is copyrighted 1949, the year of Strauss' death. While public domain in Canada and other "life+50 years" countries, it will only be public domain in Europe in 2020. If uploaded to IMSLP, it would be under the [TB] block until then, if not more (I don't know what the renewal status for the US was, so I can't say when it will be public domain there).

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:29 pm
by daphnis
I uploaded both full score and piano reduction to the duett-concertino some time ago, and yes, both are blocked.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:09 pm
by steltz
Thanks for that, Daphnis, according to that page, this work becomes public domain in the US in 2046. (Just a minor question: why not 2045? 95 years from the end of 1949 is 2044, so public domain would start 1 January 2045?. Not that I will be around or fit enough to take advantage . . . .)

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:10 pm
by daphnis
The terms last until the next full year, so even if something was published on 1 January 1949 or 30 December 1949, they both go public domain on 1 January 2045.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:29 pm
by jsnfmn
I've got the first symphony that I've been meaning to upload for some time but haven't gotten around to it, will do so soon though.

Re: Richard Strauss.

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:44 am
by steltz
@daphnis -- my apologies, I thought the text said "46", not "45". When I made the text size larger, it was clear that I misread the year. :o