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Sorry for posting such a long list, but I’d like to know if these works are in PD, whether they can be uploaded or not.

For clarinet and piano

1. Rudolf, Archduke of Austria: Sonata A-dur
2. Carl Loewe: Schottische Bilder
3. Johann Peter Emilius Hartmann: Sonata, op. 1; Suite, op. 66; Fantasia-Allegro
4. Louis Théodore Gouvy: Sonata
5. Michał Bergson: 3 duets and any other works
6. Alice Mary Smith: Sonata A-dur
7. Ella Adaïewski: Griechische Sonate
8. Augusta Holmes: Fantaisie
9. Ernest Fanelli: Humoresque
10. Donald Tovey: Sonata
11. Egon Kornauth: Sonata f-moll, op. 5

For clarinet and orchestra

12. Karol Kurpinski: Concerto
13. Christian Rummel: Concerto
14. Peter von Lindpaintner: Concerto
15. François Snel: two concertos, Concertino, Fantasia on themes from Norma
16. Charles-Louis Hanssens: two concertos and Concertino
17. Louis Schindelmeisser: Concertino c-moll
18. Julius Rietz: Concerto g-moll, op. 29
19. Anton Simon: Concerto B-dur, op. 30
20. Charles Villiers Stanford: Concerto a-moll, op. 80 (one-movement)
21. Hanuš Trneček: Concerto, op. 21
22. Richard Strauss: Romanze Es-dur (1879)

Alone

23. Donizetti: Studio primo for clarinet solo

With such a long list you ask for a lot of effort from some friendly souls!

So I would suggest, you start researching this yourself and ask only for help about those titles you cannot find anywhere yourself.
To start: http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:Copyright_Made_Simple, or http://imslp.org/wiki/Public_domain

If you try to find a rare copy in a library somewhere, try worldcat, in advanced search mode you can limit results to scores http://www.worldcat.org/advancedsearch
I personally prefer http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/kvk/kvk/kvk_en.html, because you can include several catalogs that do not cooperate with worldcat.
If you find a first edition for a work later reprinted, than chances are pretty high it may be public domain (if the author is dead for at least 50/70 years and it has been reprinted without editorial changes)

Finally there are some large catalogs that you have to search individually, like the card-image catalogs at Berlin Staatsbibliothek, the Music Department at Österreichische Nationalbibliothek, or the Sibley Library catalog (http://sibley.lib.rochester.edu/cgi-bin ... PAGE=First). Almost all of the entries are of cause not available for download...
but if you are very lucky, someone among the contributors to this site has photocopies of the works and may scan and download them (for example the Karg-Elert Sonate für Soloklarinette is now available).

Sibley's catalogue is linked to WorldCat, so the entries you find there will also include their holdings.

Not so sure if Sibley is still linked to worldcat, have found frequently items not listed,
only thing listed are the digital handles - not the general holdings

Try Henri Brod, Fantaisie sur la béarnaise. Op. 10. No location given??? Its in Rochester if you look there directly.
or Henri Brod, Souvenirs de Mont d'or - only the digital link

I can help with a couple of these.

The Strauss Romanze was from his "juvenilia", and apparently not published in Strauss' lifetime. WorldCat, though shows both a Schott and an Eulenberg edition. Then again, Eulenberg is part of Schott, so this may actually be the same edition. Where the "editio princeps" principal applies, this is most likely under copyright for quite some time -- the publication dates are 1992 and 1998.

There is an outside chance, though, that an autograph score exists somewhere, in which case that might be fair game.

In the case of Stanford's concerto, it's a bit clearer. Pamela Weston was responsible for getting it published, long after Stanford died. This was done in 1977, though she died only in 2009.

I'm not sure how editio princeps works or whether it works from publication date, or death date of editor, or what the term would be.

@kalliwoda

Well, I do know that Sibley does link pieces that haven't necessarily been digitized. It's possible that the items to which you are referring and others that don't appear in WorldCat are in some sort of restricted or special collections that haven't made their way into their digital catalogue (Voyager). Perhaps Jim Farrington can better clarify if he happens to come across this post.

I can assure you that Sibley holdings are completely represented in OCLC (worldcat). That said, without having any specific problems to see, we upload files into our digital repository (https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewIn ... ctionId=63) at a much faster rate than our cataloger can get them linked in our online catalog and Voyager. They'll eventually be linked, of course, but there is going to be a lag. This summer we have been averaging around 50 uploads/day. That will taper as the semester gets underway in September, which will allow our cataloging to catch up.

If you could tell me what you mean when you say

Well, I do know that Sibley does link pieces that haven't necessarily been digitized.

and

have found frequently items not listed, only thing listed are the digital handles - not the general holdings

perhaps I could understand better what the issues are. Maybe the verbs "link" and "listed" are causing me confusion on this Monday morning.

If you could tell me what you mean when you say

Well, I do know that Sibley does link pieces that haven't necessarily been digitized.

Link in the sense that the Voyager catalogue doesn't necessarily link over to WorldCat only the items which have been digitized, ie. WorldCat contains more items for Sibley other than those that have been digitzed as Kalliwoda initially suggested.

and

have found frequently items not listed, only thing listed are the digital handles - not the general holdings

I believe Kalliwoda was saying that he has found items in Sibley's collection (perhaps via the digitization project) that are not listed (my linked) in the respective WorldCat entries.

daphnis wrote:

If you could tell me what you mean when you say

Well, I do know that Sibley does link pieces that haven't necessarily been digitized.

Link in the sense that the Voyager catalogue doesn't necessarily link over to WorldCat only the items which have been digitized, ie. WorldCat contains more items for Sibley other than those that have been digitzed as Kalliwoda initially suggested.

Ah, yes. Worldcat will show all of our holdings, regardless whether we have digitized them.

and

have found frequently items not listed, only thing listed are the digital handles - not the general holdings

I believe Kalliwoda was saying that he has found items in Sibley's collection (perhaps via the digitization project) that are not listed (my linked) in the respective WorldCat entries.

Yes, that would be explained by the lag time between digitizing/uploading into the repository, and when we do the linking of bibliographic records in OCLC and Voyager. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for the clarification!
On another, unrelated note, would it be possible to include the composer name in the RSS feed entries? It is slightly irksome to only know this after clicking the link.

I am searching with the link I gave above: http://www.worldcat.org/advancedsearch
and the recent problem is: I failed to see even a single holding in the worlcat search results that would be from Sibley, except for digital handles. The general holdings of the voyager catalog are hidden.
Is this something specific to my location in Europe?

I must have tried some 2 dozen pieces, noticed a few recently digitized works that have not been linked, but could not find one general entry from the main voyager catalog...

au: Genin, ti: Sextuor displays only the digitized handle, and the Indiana and Den Haag copies

au: Brod, ti: Fantaisie bearnaise displays only the red error message "Sorry, no libraries with the specified item were found".
Same with other unique items in the Voyager catalog, that have not been digitized yet.

This is strange!