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Piano 4 hands scores need empty spacer page in order to have "secondo" and "primo" line up properly across from each other.

Note to contributors (scanners and uploaders).

This can easily be fixed when duplex printing. Print the first secondo page on a single sheet of paper and then print pages, for example, 2-end in the traditional duplex manner.

Could you please provide an example?

daphnis wrote:This can easily be fixed when duplex printing. Print the first secondo page on a single sheet of paper and then print pages, for example, 2-end in the traditional duplex manner.

For people who just view the PDFs --ie who don't print out-- there is still the original problem (as laid out).

coulonnus wrote:Could you please provide an example?

IMSLP157460-PMLP20830-Schubert_Fantaisie_Op.103_Pf4H

It should be a general rule to keep the arrangement of the pages (right and left - odd and even pages) always exactly like in the original print, and not only in 4-hands music.
In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.
I see too many scanned scores that don't respect the original score's arrangement!

Rob Peters wrote:In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.

And typeset scores - retypeset or new compositions - should conform to this rule too!

Rob Peters wrote:It should be a general rule to keep the arrangement of the pages (right and left - odd and even pages) always exactly like in the original print, and not only in 4-hands music.
In keyboard scores in particular, the editor often takes care to place a page turn at a spot where the player has one hand free, and that's always at the end of the right (odd) page.
I see too many scanned scores that don't respect the original score's arrangement!

When printing a score from a PDF it is easy to omit that first blank page.

jm_1234321 wrote:When printing a score from a PDF it is easy to omit that first blank page.

True, but it's always a PITA if you have to reprint a couple of pages (because of printer jam or whatever) and the page numbering in the pd doesn't correspond with that in the score (ood becomes even and vice versa).

Rob Peters wrote:It should be a general rule to keep the arrangement of the pages (right and left - odd and even pages) always exactly like in the original print, and not only in 4-hands music.

To make printing simple:
1: install pdftk from http://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/ if not already done.
2: find another score that really has a blank page (I assume it is p.2) and make a pdf document with this blank page only: pdftk scorewithblank.pdf cat 2 output myblank.pdf
3: crop the cover of the incorrect score: pdftk thisscore.pdf cat 1 output mycover.pdf
4: crop the music pages of the same score: pdftk thisscore.pdf cat 2-end output mypiece.pdf
5: merge the three sections together: pdftk mycover.pdf myblank.pdf mypiece.pdf output correctscore.pdf
6: If you are not shy: 6a: make a remark in Discuss this Piece and/or 6b: replace the present score with yours.