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John P. Sousa - The Stars and Stripes forever.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:06 pm
by Andrey.S
Could you please be so kind to recommend us which arrangement is performed by NYP conducted by Leonard Bernstein available on this recording:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmaR0h6-giE

Also you are probably could assist us with the information from which publisher it could be available or who owns the rights for this exact arrangement. Many thanks in advance for your kind help.

Kind regards,
Andrey

Re: John P. Sousa - The Stars and Stripes forever.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:28 am
by Carolus
Sousa arranged the work for orchestra himself, and it was published the same year as the original band version (1897) along with a fair number of arrangements. It's most likely the one they are playing from.

Re: John P. Sousa - The Stars and Stripes forever.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:54 am
by Melodia
FWIW, last time I checked there is no arranged credited on the "Great Marches" CD that has Bernstein recording the piece, which would presumably be the same version they are playing. I have another CD that doesn't credit an arranger of the piece as well and credits others on it.

Re: John P. Sousa - The Stars and Stripes forever.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:33 pm
by Andrey.S
Dear Carolus,

Thank you for your prompt reply. Don't you have any idea where to find the original 1897 symphonic orchestra arrangement to check if it is what we are looking for. It was published by the John Church Company and here on the first page is the instrumentation for the symphonic band, but it's seems different compared to the Bernstein's performance, there is no strings except basses, only two piccolos, too many saxophones and additional band instruments like euphonium etc.:
http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnk ... _score.pdf

Any help is appreciated. Thanks for your kind assistance.

Dear Melodia,

Thank you for your kind participation. It could make sense and I would take your information into account.

Best wishes,
Andrey

Re: John P. Sousa - The Stars and Stripes forever.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:40 am
by Carolus
You might try checking the David Daniels reference book on orchestral literature. Stokowski did an orchestration for a fairly large orchestra: 2+1, 2, 2, 2, 3sax - 2, 4, 3, 1
timp, perc, hp(pf), str. The typical type of thing issued by Church in that era had the following instrumentation: 1+1, 1, 2, 1 - 2, 2, 1, 0, timp, perc, str