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Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambourine

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:08 pm
by worov
Hi, everyone !

I'm currently looking for a Clementi piece. I have a recording of it Maria Tipo, Luciano Di Labio and Giannino Ferrari. In the booklet of the CD, it's listed as "12 Waltzes for the pianoforte, triangle and tambourine, Op. 38" :

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However, on IMSLP, when I looked at the page http://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Muzio_Clementi, it shows op.38 as piano sonatinas.

Where can I find these waltzes for piano, triangle and tambourine ? Are they still copyrighted ?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:28 pm
by Choralia
Worldcat reports an edition published in 1982 by Edizioni Curci:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/24-valzer ... c/14062580

It is supposed to be a revision by Maria Tipo of a previous edition that I haven't been able to trace.

The 1982 edition is still included in the Edizioni Curci's catalogue:

http://www.edizionicurci.it/printed-mus ... ancora_top

As it was published more than 25 years ago, it is probably eligible for being uploaded to the EU server under the "urtext" copyright provisions.

Max

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:44 pm
by worov
Thank you for your answer.

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:55 am
by coulonnus
It's there! http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9 ... .r=.langFR I'll upload it ASAP but it requires a bit of work unless you're happy with their low resolution pdf "télécharger".

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:10 am
by coulonnus
The piano part of Op.38 is here: http://imslp.org/wiki/12_Waltzes_for_Pi ... ti,_Muzio). Perhaps the percussion parts are left to the players' taste. :-) Does the CD booklet give information?

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:55 pm
by worov
The piano part of Op.38 is here: http://imslp.org/wiki/12_Waltzes_for_Pi ... ti,_Muzio). Perhaps the percussion parts are left to the players' taste. :-) Does the CD booklet give information?
Thank you for the piano part. That's very kind of you. I'll be able to work on the piano part.

No, the CD booklet gives no information about it.

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:16 am
by coulonnus
You can at least listen to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQQGKgqrvg The Curci edition http://opac.sbn.it/opacsbn/opaclib?db=s ... one&from=2
has a set of 95 and 31 pages. It is likely that the smaller part is the percussion one, but was it written by M. Tipo?

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:22 am
by worov
The YouTube performance comes from the CD. I already heard it. Thank you anyway.

I have no idea if Miss Tipo arranged the percussion parts herself.

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:23 am
by coulonnus
I am curious: is the CD a new edition of the 1981 vynil?

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:27 am
by coulonnus
Percussion parts have been printed: http://opac.sbn.it/opacsbn/opaclib?db=s ... one&from=1

Re: Muzio Clementi : Waltzes for piano, triangle and tambour

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:21 am
by worov
It's a CD edition re-eddited in the early 2000's. However the CD is out of print. It's this one :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Muzio-Clementi- ... 0837400501

Thank you for the link. I'll see if I can find these.