Schumann Violin Sonata Op. 105

gabrijel83 · Post by **gabrijel83** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:31 pm

Hello all
Im looking for the Schumann Op. 105 Score...
Kind regards
Gabriel

dsoslglece · Post by **dsoslglece** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:04 pm

Hi, I guess that is the first one ? I have it and could post it for you, but I may need to get it through Finale, since of course the music itself is PD, but the edition, even if really old, is from Peters...

Some advices on that by a copyrights specialist ?

Post by **Carolus** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:45 pm

If the Peters editor died over 50 years ago, it's absolutely PD in Canada. If it was first published before 1923, it's absolutely PD in the USA. If the Peters edition you have is an "urtext" type edition more than 30 years old, it's public domain in the EU.

dsoslglece · Post by **dsoslglece** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:21 pm

Well, Peters Edition is an edition society (one of the big ones), and, so far I know, still in the business today...
I think that the music I have was edited at the real beginning of the century (on the back cover they advertise : "Mozart, Sonaten für Klavier u. Violine, Neue Ausgabe von Schnabel und Flesh"

Scnabel died in 1951, but Flesh in 1944... and I guess they didn't do it on their deathbed...

My edition is not an Uhrtext... it definitely didn't exist in those days... by the way, the first page cover is typical of the early beginning of 20th century, with caryatids, angels holding flower garlands, and a lyra...

So, I guess it should be OK...

However I've started already to scan the first page of the violin part and to do an OCR with Finale, just to see how it goes, and that is done now, I'll see if it recognizes well the piano part but I may just send the photos of it since it may be rather long...

Anyway, the photos have also to be a bit corrected since the paper has a bit darkened with time...

dsoslglece · Post by **dsoslglece** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:18 pm

Hello...
I'm just finish with the Schumann parts, but, since it is the first time that I'm uploading some music here, I'd like to ask what to do with it.

It is now as PDF (had to clean the files that were very yellowed from age, and were full of celotape), and I assembled separately the piano part and the violin part, but I thing that somehow those two have to be joint together, isn't it...

should they be put in a folder of some sort ? (the problem must be similar for quartets or quintets)...

writing this made me think that maybe this question is already answered in the FAQs, if such is the case, don't bother to answer, I'll find it...

Post by **Matthieu** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:46 pm

Peters edition of Schumann's sonatas Op. 105 and 121 was published ca 1890 (plate 7063, edition number 2367). The editor is Friedrich Hermann who died in 1907.

So, it is public domain worldwide.

I have this score and I will try to scan it as soon as I can.

dsoslglece · Post by **dsoslglece** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:02 pm

Well, thanks for the datum, Matthieu... I guessed it was about that period, since the picture on it looks very much like this period after Napoleon III...

And don't bother to scan it, since it's done already... I spent the day now doing it and am just on the point to upload the PDF...

I was just wondering about that question of putting the 2 files in one folder... but, maybe it is good enough to assemble them together as PDF... after all, when printing it, it'll be separated by page anyway... I'll just go and see on here what is being done for such parts for sonatas or quartets...

Post by **Matthieu** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:17 pm

Good to hear I won't have to scan it

Concerning your question, usually 2 separate files are posted: "Piano score" and "Violin part".

dsoslglece · Post by **dsoslglece** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:27 pm

OK, thanks...
it's anyway how it is now...
I only hope that Gabrijel83 will become aware of it sometimes, since he didn't give any signs yet of being here...